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"Guide us to the Straight Way: the Way of those on whom You have bestowed Your Grace, not of those who have earned Your anger nor of those who go astray." Al-Fatiha 1:6-7

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"BUT I'M NOT HURTING ANYONE!"

Dear Mujahid, I have a question.

I was in a debate with a Syrian Christian and he calls himself gay. He was asking me: If I am not hurting anybody, then it is OK.

I know it doesn't make any sense. My answer was, God ordered us not to do that sin. Whether we are not hurting anyone doesn't matter. We have to obey our God's orders. My answer was not convincing. what do you think the right answer should have been?

Well I think your answer was just fine, but perhaps I can help you expand on it. The assumption behind his statement was that "The morality of an action is judged by the perceived harm caused to others than the individual who performed the action." Where does this principle come from? It is not taught by the Qur'an, nor by the previous scriptures. If people wish to base their lives (their Deen) on wishful sentiments, then that is up to them - but we Muslims base our ideas on the Qur'an and Sunnah.

So, what do the Islamic sources say? They tell us that we can do whatever we choose, BUT our choices have consequences. Some of these consequences will become apparent in this life, while others will not manifest themselves until the Day of Judgement, when Allah (SWT) will take account of everything in perfect justice. To attain success, we must follow the commands and guidelines given to us by our Creator, the All-Knowing.

However, we do believe that there is good reasoning behind every command or prohibition. On the other hand, we do not necessarily know what the reasoning is! Sometimes we can take a good guess, but we cannot be sure. Only Allah truly knows what the benefits or harms of any action are for this life or the next. While it may seem that what we do causes no harm, perhaps it is more harmful than we can even imagine.

As for sodomy (homosexual "sex"), it harms the individuals involved, and damages the fabric of society as a whole. Nevertheless, even if we could not think of or describe these harms (which we can), we would still agree with the statement of Shabir Ally that "Consenting adults also need God's consent".

On the other hand, there is a point in what your Christian friend said, in that the actions of an individual in private are not everyone's business! It is not for us to examine and criticise what a person does in his home with nobody's knowledge. We must be very clear, however, that this does NOT affect whether the actions are right or wrong! That subject is clarified only by reference to the Qur'an and Sunnah.

Mujahid Mustaqim, 15 Mar 03


"DISAPPOINTED"

in no way am i going to offend anyone here but i am sorry to say that i dont believe for a minute that you are doing good for anyone here struggling with there sexuality ..

i am muslim an i am gay ...an i have no desire to change either .. to me you are adding pressure to people here by telling them they are less than they can be because they love feel etc for another person of the same sex ...

i challenge you to show me why you believe someone who is gay should try to be straight ...whos benefit does it serve ??

there are confused guys/girls out there who just need time to find out about themselves .....your attitude should help them do this ..an it should not be trying to change them ..just help them ...

young kids 18 to 20 are just discovering the world an themselves ..sexuality is all a part of growing up ...we should be helping them to be better people ..whether that means they are happy being straight ..gay ..bi ...is not important ..

we need to be there for each other as muslim brothers ..

sex is a natural outlet as is masturbation ....as long as its consensual an not forced as in rape than for me its whats in the heart that matters ...an the love in my heart is not brought from something evil but from something good ...

islam is a beautiful religion an has taught me to accept myself an others without judgement ....we are resonsible only for our own actions ...

an please as far as being gay is a test ...allah does not test anyone for his whole life or seek that he should spend a life based on a lie ..

help the ones who ask by all means but be honest in accepting that homosexuality is not a choice but just how you are born if you are gay ..

dont believe me ??? scientific studies support my view ...i suggest you research your topic a bit more not only for yourbenefit but for your readers as well .......

they deserve to know the whole truth ...Dont they?

As-salaamu 'alaykum,

First of all, thank you for writing to us - no offence has been taken. We welcome differing points of view, so we can re-evaluate our approach and improve it if possible. Then, if we are still sure that we are doing the right thing, we can use comments like yours to demonstrate logically that we're right!

"i am muslim an i am gay" - What does Islam say about being "gay"? Try and find me any reference. Your terminology is based on un-Islamic ideas. As Muslims, we should try to understand things as Islam explains them, as Islam is a whole way of life, and has its own philosophy. We don't believe that people should be categorised according to their attractions. "an i have no desire to change either" - Well, that's not the issue. The issue is whether you are committing homosexual actions that are forbidden by Allah. If so, you are doing yourself no good but actually adding to your negative scale for the Day of Judgement! We are in constant need to repent from the sins we commit, and part of repentance is to resolve not to return to the sins.

"to me you are adding pressure to people here by telling them they are less than they can be because they love feel etc for another person of the same sex" - In fact that's not what we're saying. A person's feelings don't make them "less", but going down a road of sin certainly does debase a person. By struggling against unwanted desires, a person actually becomes spiritually elevated and gains reward from the Merciful God.

"i challenge you to show me why you believe someone who is gay should try to be straight ...whos benefit does it serve ??" - All we are urging people to do is follow the guidance of Allah for how to live this life and benefit in the Next. We say that Muslims should follow the Qur'an and Sunnah, not their own desires, inflamed by Satan. Who benefits? Only the person him/herself will benefit from obeying Allah. However, we do hope that through our efforts, people will turn to Allah more and that He will reward us for that. If you don't know that homosexual acts are forbidden categorically by Islam, then you need to read our Islamic Rulings section.

"there are confused guys/girls out there who just need time to find out about themselves .....your attitude should help them do this" - That's fine, but God has not left us alone to wander for ourselves. He has revealed the Qur'an and His Prophet (on whom be peace) has given us further guidelines for how to understand the world and live in it. Surely you don't advocate ignoring this advice? Do you tell parents to let their young children "discover for themselves" that they shouldn't put their hand in the fireplace?

"an it should not be trying to change them ..just help them" - We believe the best help we can offer is to explain what Islam says about homosexual feelings, and offer advice on how to deal with those feelings and stay on the Straight Way. "we should be helping them to be better people" - Exactly! And isn't it better to obey God than to disobey Him? Isn't it better to follow His guidance than to go astray?

"sex is a natural outlet as is masturbation ....as long as its consensual an not forced as in rape than for me its whats in the heart that matters" - Yes, sex is natural and allowed. However, Islam has laid boundaries on what is and is not acceptable. When Allah says "And do not approach fornication", who are you to tell people that human consent is all that matters? What about God's consent? "an the love in my heart is not brought from something evil but from something good" - Perhaps, but do you not acknowledge that there can be evil, misplaced love too? How about love for money, love for power? The Devil can make some things appear beautiful to us while their true nature is ugly and abominable. It is God's guidance that cuts through Satan's lies.

"islam is a beautiful religion an has taught me to accept myself an others without judgement ....we are resonsible only for our own actions" - True, which is why the StraightWay Foundation never judges people! Have I condemned you in any way? It is one thing to judge, but another to give advice and warn people of the consequences of their actions.

"allah does not test anyone for his whole life or seek that he should spend a life based on a lie" - What is your evidence for this presumption about how Allah tests His creatures? How do you know that He never tests a person for his whole life? We do not advocate living on a lie, but in fact invite people towards the truth. It is Satan who lies to people and makes them think that their actions are acceptable. His forces in the world are working hard, especially through the media, to blind people to the reality, forcing people to identify as being of a particular "orientation".

"dont believe me ??? scientific studies support my view" - I am well aware of such "scientific" studies, but perhaps you're not aware of their limitations and flaws. Have a look at NARTH for some information. In short, it doesn't matter whether people are born with these inclinations, it is what they do with them that counts. You might not choose who you are attracted to, but you choose whether to act on those urges or not!

Finally, I ask Allah to accept our efforts and guide us on the Straight Way. May He forgive us and grant us Jannah!

Mujahid Mustaqim, 1 Feb 03

 


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